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Italy: Islam Not Recognized as a Religion — Denied Religious Tax Status

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This post was originally made in the Muslim Times by our Japan Editor: Mrs. Abida Rehman, in 2012. I have copied it in this post, to be able to put it in slide show again.

Original Post dated: August 2010

Italy has denied religious status to Islam. Politicians cited extremist (fundamentalist) imams, polygamy and failure to uphold women’s rights by Muslim immigrants as obstacles to recognizing Islam as an official religion in Italy.

Until now, the government had earmarked 8 percent of income tax revenue for Italy’s established churches. The great majority of these funds go to the Catholic Church, although if they wish, individual tax payers may elect to give the money to charities and cultural projects instead.

Islam is not an established religion in Italy and there is only one official mosque in the country, Rome’s Grand Mosque. Politicians from the ruling coalition cite radical imams, polygamy and failure to uphold women’s rights by Muslims immigrants as obstacles to recognising Islam as an official religion in Italy.

Until now, only the Catholic Church, Judaism and other established churches including Lutherans, Evangelists, Waldensians and 7th-day Adventists have received the income tax revenue from the Itallain government.

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31 Responses to Italy: Islam Not Recognized as a Religion — Denied Religious Tax Status

  1. Rafiq A. Tschannen

    May 31, 2012 at 7:52 am

    I am not aware that in any country where the state collects a ‘church tax’ this is shared with any Muslims. On the contrary, Muslims are even usually paying ‘Church Taxes’. There is usually a way to avoid paying the Church tax (as a Muslim), but most ‘simple’ workers do not know how to take advantage of this exception.

  2. Rafiq A. Tschannen

    May 31, 2012 at 7:54 am

    It would actually be a benefit to the countries in question when funding Mosques. Such mosques would not need to rely on Saudi Arabian (Wahabi) funding and therefore could become more independent. (Just a thought).

    (Of course the Mosques of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at are financed by its members only and are therefore totally independent from any foreign donors and their ‘hidden agendas’).

  3. Amtul Q Farhat

    May 31, 2012 at 7:59 am

    I am sure Insha Allah Ahmadiyya Muslim Community will be the first one to build the next mosque in Italy. Following extract from a Friday Sermon of Hadur in Italy is relevant in this context:

    Hudhur delivered his Friday Sermon from Baitul Tauheed in San Pietro in Casale, Italy. Hudhur said it was with God’s grace that today Friday Sermon was being broadcast Live worldwide from Italy for the first time. In spite of members of the Community residing in the country for a long time in a reasonable number we do not have a centre or a mission house there. Some two years ago the site [from where the Sermon was relayed] was purchased, may God enable the construction of a mosque there and remove the hurdles in this matter. Hudhur said locals oppose the building due to their anti-Islam sentiments which are precipitated by the acts of certain Muslim groups. Those who have animosity against Islam will find any excuse to bring it into disrepute; it gives them a chance to fan the flames of ill will. Hudhur said prayers should be made that the hurdles are not only removed in this area but that we are also enabled to build a mission house in Rome.
    Read complete text of this sermon here:
    http://www.alislam.org/urdu/sermon/FST20100416-UR.pdf

  4. Rafiq A. Tschannen

    May 31, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Inshallah.

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  6. Foxtrot

    July 19, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Although this is not fair, its always good when the religion of death doesn’t get accepted.

    However, Catholics are just as retarded for literally believing in ancient mythology.

    That’s right… Today’s religion is still tomorrow’s mythology.

  7. Khwaja Tariq Shamim

    July 19, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Religion of death Mr. Foxtrot? When I checked the Quran I saw:

    “… let not a people’s enmity incite you to act otherwise than with justice. Be always just, that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah. Surely, Allah is aware of what you do.” [Maidah 5:9]

  8. anon

    September 4, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    It is a religion of rape and violence

  9. Zia H. Shah

    September 4, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    And why would that be? The Holy Quran describes killing of an innocent person as a holocaust or a genocide. An adulterer is to be punished with 100 stripes according to the Holy Quran, where is the room for rape?

    Theft is to be punished by cutting of hands, which can be implemented literally, metaphorically and creatively to prevent violence and crime.

    If you are an atheist, tell me why killing a primate or an ape is wrong, according to your ideology.

    If you are a Christian, please try refuting the following article:

    Violence in the Bible and Jihad in the Quran

  10. scottish

    September 4, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Well if the Holly Quran describes killing of a innocent person as a holocaust then what about all the100 stripes witch is more like stikeing a girl half in the ground and chucking rocks and cutting hands off dose that not sound like killing to me

  11. Zia H. Shah

    September 4, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Dear Scottish calm down and take a deep breath.

    What you are worried about stoning to death is mentioned in the Bible, not in the Holy Quran.

    I guess you did not read the article about the Bible, which is linked above. If you read it then your righteous indignation will cool down enough that we may be able to hold bilateral, amicable discussion like grown up respectful adults.

  12. rottendrew

    September 5, 2012 at 12:33 am

    Nice try Muslims! The peaceful verses from your book are from when Mohamed had a small following and was not as powerful as he was later in life. The peaceful verses are superseded by the Newer more violent verses and if you get confused reading the instruction manual of world domination you are to use the more MODERN more VIOLENT verse! According to the main imam in Saudi. Or are all those videos on the internet posted by radicals bull shit??

  13. Rafiq A. Tschannen

    September 5, 2012 at 4:08 am

    Dear ‘rotten’-’drew’. If you read The Muslim Times carefully you will note that we do not agree with the main Imam of Saudi Arabia. He for instance said that there should not be any churches in the Arab peninsula, while we pointed out that the Prophet Mohammad, peace be on him, even permitted Christians to pray in his mosque. etc. (other reader’s comments are appreciated).

  14. Mohamed Ali

    February 24, 2013 at 2:16 am

    Islam is a lively religion if someone dose not recognize as religion It his ignorance not others fault. About the women rights who can deny. the world was totally changed ethically socially economically politically after the appearance of Mohammad pbuh, The very important change was THE RESPECT of the WOMEN WAS ESTABLISHED first time in the world. As DAUGHTER SISTER WIFE MOTHER the great honor was awarded by only Prophet Mohammad pbuh. As a mother it was informed that Paradise lies under the feet of your mother. Woman has a first got a right to get education, economically freedom right. Inheritance rights, Marriage right at her own wish. All was given by religion Islam
    The dignity of Woman was introduced in Islam only.Still in this age or time
    No other religion can even imagine such honorable and dignified freedom for a women in the world. This kind of freedom leads towards a peaceful society well mannered and educated civilized nations.my slogan is if the mother, teachers doctors are given respect the whole nation will become respectable.

  15. solyana

    April 3, 2013 at 12:27 am

    if muslim is the right religion i prefer go to the hell.non respect people 100%christian respectfull religion

  16. Zubair Khan

    September 17, 2013 at 4:56 am

    At state level recognition of religion needs certain criteria to be fulfilled. Probably no Muslim group in Italy is so organized and effective to fulfill such requirements.

  17. Ghulam Sarwar

    September 17, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    I am surprised about the government of Italy not giving recognition to Islam to build mosques because of radical imams, polygamy and failure to uphold women’s rights by Muslims immigrants as obstacles to recognizing Islam as an official religion. That is not good. The Christians do not have any law. The Jews have a law and they follow that. But it is well known that Christians do not have any law. So how they are permitted to be recognized as a religion in Italy? In their book (bible) there is nothing about polygamy. There is nothing about women’s rights.

    The Christian women were officially told to keep quiet in the church.

    Bible blames the woman (Eve) about eating the apple and misguiding her man (Adam). The Quran does not do that. Islam gave the right to woman to hold property and a share in the inheritance, 1400 years ago.

    I do not want to blame the Christians. They have what they have. But they should compare their beliefs by their book, not by the present day standards of life. The present day improvements are not due to any church teachings. They are a combined effort of all world people.

  18. Sharon Hunter

    September 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    When your religion encourages you to slaughter all others and you actively believe it literally and kill Christians as in Syria and …

  19. Zia Shah

    September 18, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Sharon, Islam does not encourage us to kill non-believers. You are taking the worst examples from any Muslim, any time in history and then stereotyping all of Islam and all of the Muslims from the worst examples.

    This is like saying, for example, at a given time in a given study 5-10% of population in a Christian country were guilty of incest and there are ten mentions of incest in the Bible.

    If my above claims are true then we can easily generalize from there, as follows.

    So, from that we conclude that Christianity is a religion about incest and all Christians are incestuous, therefore we should ban Christianity in every country of the world?

    But, I know that I am just stereotyping from the worst examples and creating a witch hunt.

    Or let us try this: The First Crusade was a war of aggression four centuries after Jerusalem was taken over by Caliph Umar in a bloodless siege. During the Crusade the Crusaders killed thousands of innocent Muslim women and children.

    Are we to conclude from this that all Christians are war mongers, murderers and cannibals?

    Certainly not, because the Holy Quran tells us:

    O ye who believe! be steadfast in the cause of Allah, bearing witness in equity; and let not a people’s enmity incite you to act otherwise than with justice. Be always just, that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah. Surely, Allah is aware of what you do. (Al Quran 5:9)

    And:

    And thou shalt assuredly find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ to be the nearest of them in love to the believers. That is because amongst them are savants and monks and because they are not proud. (Al Quran 5:83)

  20. Zia Shah

    September 18, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    If you would read the verses below, Sharon, you will get the Quranic teachings about defensive war, at a glance, if you are looking for the truth. If you are in search ways to contradict, then after a little discussion, we will have no choice but to moderate your comments.

    First the verses of Sura Hajj, when defensive war was first allowed:

    Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged — and Allah indeed has power to help them — Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, ‘Our Lord is Allah’ — And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty. (Al Quran 22:40-41)

    Now, read the verses from Sura Baqara, which talk about peace options repeatedly:

    And fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors.
    And kill them wherever you meet them and drive them out from where they have driven you out; for persecution is worse than killing. And fight them not in, and near, the Sacred Mosque until they fight you therein. But if they fight you, then fight them: such is the requital for the disbelievers.
    But if they desist, then surely Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
    And fight them until there is no persecution, and religion is freely professed for Allah. But if they desist, then remember that no hostility is allowed except against the aggressors. (Al Quran 2:191-194)

  21. scott mcmanus

    September 22, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Islamist gunmen hold hostages in Kenya

  22. Abdullah

    September 23, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    There are millions muslims in Italy but many Catholics are haters and … they only attack muslims

  23. scottish

    September 23, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    if they only attack musllims then why is ther millions of muslims in Italy

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  25. Down under

    September 27, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Italy has every right to deny Islam whatever it likes.
    The simple reason, its is their country, their rules. If islam does not like it (toerate it), they can return to any of the war torn Islamic dominated countries. No-one in the world will be disappointed.

  26. Ghulam Sarwar

    September 28, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Italy is a big country, mostly Christians. They should think over that there are many Christians in the world. But the next majority is the Muslims.
    Christians will benefit by having good relation with the Muslims. There is no use denying a number two majority religion of the world.
    Perhaps Christians are afraid of the Muslims!

  27. Juliett1313

    September 28, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    ANswer me this, if islam is such a tolerant religion and people who practice islam are such peaceful people, then why is it that all countries ran under islamic law are over ran with violence and most non moslems are either forced to convert, pay moslems for the right to live ( jizya tax) or slaughtered? Common sense should tell people that if this pattern of violence over running all islamic countries for hundreds of years just keeps on happening, that just maybe islam is NOT a peaceful religion.

    It is obvious that it is islam and it’s teachings and practices that are the problem. We can wipe out militants over and over and more will just pop up like they have been for hundreds of years. Its the same cycle over and over again and that should make it obvious that the problem isn’t militant, and it isn’t radicalization because if islam was teaching positive ideas and practices, there would be little room to twist it’s meanings into such violence by SO MANY people. Have you ever heard the term “Radicalized Christian”? That is because the old testament was changed into the NEW testament to clarify the teachings for todays Christians. Yes the Old testament is still there, but Christians don’t follow it’s outdated teachings anymore as some of them may be destructive in todays day and age. ( Having many wives in a time of overpopulation and corporal punishment when it is deemed by society to be barbaric are a couple of examples) SO when you moslems scream about “moderate or radicalized moslems”, I ask them why we never have to use the terms “radicalized CHristians, Jews,” or any other organized religious group. What about “moderate KKK members”? You moslems can talk till your blue in the face about what good and peaceful people you are, but until the actions of moslems worldwide stop being over all destructive and violent, anyone with any common sense wont believe you. We will believe what we see not what you say! You wouldn’t have to be constantly trying to convince everyone that islam is “a peaceful religion” if moslems weren’t so busy acting like a destructive supremacist organization!

  28. Rafiq A. Tschannen

    September 29, 2014 at 1:53 am

    Here we have the Problem of the usual ‘generalization’. 1.5 Billion Muslims are all put into the se Pot than a few Zens of thousands of Crazy militants and psychos.’

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  30. peaceful haha yeah very ;)

    September 29, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    ‘And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing’ – Quran (2:191-193)

  31. Zia Shah

    September 29, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Fitnah does not mean disbelief but persecution and here is the translation, with the context. The Quran is describing a state of defensive war, for the Muslims, as it highlights need to take every opportunity for peace:

    And fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors.

    And kill them wherever you meet them and drive them out from where they have driven you out; for persecution is worse than killing. And fight them not in, and near, the Sacred Mosque until they fight you therein. But if they fight you, then fight them: such is the requital for the disbelievers.

    But if they desist, then surely Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

    And fight them until there is no persecution, and religion is freely professed for Allah. But if they desist, then remember that no hostility is allowed except against the aggressors.

    The violation of a Sacred Month should be retaliated in the Sacred Month; and for all sacred things there is the law of retaliation. So, whoso transgresses against you, punish him for his transgression to the extent to which he has transgressed against you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

    (Al Quran 2:191-195)

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